Our Shimmering Lady of Unerring Purpose ([personal profile] shimmershimmer) wrote in [community profile] warmwood2014-12-05 06:31 am
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Day 02 Trial

[It is once more time to convene at the temple to pass judgment upon those who would destroy everything we know and love. Godspeed, my friends.]

((Vote here!

EDIT: Right now barely anyone has voted, and people seem to be tapering off. Trial may be extended depending on how it looks closer to closing time!

EDIT2: Okay, I'm extending the vote two hours to 6:30pm EST! We're still missing a lot of votes, so please get those in even if it's just to abstain!))
weeabird: (15)

[personal profile] weeabird 2014-12-05 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'll grant you that much, but I maintain that this is not a demon, but the same Bobby Fulbright I have known. Perhaps you have no reason to trust my judgment, but I am confident in that assertion.

Besides, there's a third possibility that no one has mentioned.
weeabird: (28)

[personal profile] weeabird 2014-12-05 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
That both Kimblee and Fool Bright are telling the truth, and that the note was written by a demon in order to pit them against each other.

Think about it. Why would they put one of their own on the line in such a way? Naming Fool Bright as an innocent has put him under considerable scrutiny and in very real danger. It would have been much simpler and less risky to choose someone at random. The demons know who isn't a demon, after all, and while they might be taking a risk of choosing one of the Sinners, the odds would be highly in their favor that whomever they chose to clear would come up clear, if investigated.

And in fact, by choosing someone who was so vocally and obstinately opposed to Kimblee's claim, they've created a win-win situation. If the group falls for it and votes out Kimblee, we lose our last Seer. If we instead turn our suspicions on the detective, we execute an innocent and subsequently become extremely mistrustful toward Kimblee.
lasuaspada: (CASUAL ♞ jealous of your cigarette)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, but there's a reason for that as well, Blackquill-san! There's a very good reason, actually.

Say we don't vote for Kimblee-san tonight - say that we abstain again, or we turn our paranoia against someone else entirely. If we assume that he's genuine, he'll still be able to dream about Fulbright-san.

And this is why I'm saying that Fulbright-san is the logical choice for the demons to make to spearhead their argument against Kimblee-san - in the event that he doesn't succeed and is dreamed about, there's one way that he could come back clear.
weeabird: (unko-eating grin)

[personal profile] weeabird 2014-12-05 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mean to tell me you think that Bobby Fulbright is the Archdemon?
lasuaspada: (ARROGANCE ♞ mhmm sure she did)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what I mean to tell you.

He would come back clean in any dream anyone thought to have of him, if such dreams were considered at all. If he becomes too much of a liability because he can't keep his mouth shut, the Archdemon can be replaced if they're destroyed.

Were I a demon, that would be exactly where I would put him.
irenicly: (♨ you're the one she's after)

[personal profile] irenicly 2014-12-05 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't think about that before, but it might explain why Fulbright-san is so confident.
lasuaspada: (CASUAL ♞ jealous of your cigarette)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. He can't be seen by anyone with that particular gift; he has nothing to lose. And if he's found out, he can just be replaced...

I think that's a perfectly good reason to be confident.
imfine222too: (OBJECTION)

[personal profile] imfine222too 2014-12-05 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
HOLD IT!


Detective Fulbright can't possibly be the Archdemon!
lasuaspada: (ARROGANCE ♞ mhmm sure she did)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
On what grounds?

Unless you're claiming to have knowledge that only demons would know, amore, you have no reason to say that.
imfine222too: (and then it will fall)

[personal profile] imfine222too 2014-12-05 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I know that Detective Fulbright is a really good guy! Maybe he's a little unsettling, and not very smart, and obviously bad at his job, and holds eye contact a little bit too long, and laughs uncomfortably loud, and seems to really like tasing Simon more than is professionally appropriate, and not very smart- . . .


[ she can keep going ]
irenicly: (♨ she's the blade and you're just paper)

[personal profile] irenicly 2014-12-05 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
If he's been possessed by a demon, all that means is that the demon is good at pretending to be the person Fulbright-san used to be.
irenicly: (♨ she's the blade and you're just paper)

[personal profile] irenicly 2014-12-05 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, Cykes-san, but I think my brother has a point.
lasuaspada: (LECTURE ♞ yes but unfortunately...me)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
As I've said, mademoiselle, the demon masquerading as Fulbright-san is a skilled actor. Continuing to base our current thoughts about him on his past behavior - what some of you remember him being like - is a terrible mistake.
weeabird: (you bloody aho)

[personal profile] weeabird 2014-12-05 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
And you don't think it's a stretch to assume that all of us who knew him before would be so easily fooled by an impostor?
lasuaspada: (DEADEYE ♞ this doctor needs a hobby)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
...No, I don't.

I'm sorry, monsieur, but the reason we don't have a direction is because these demons are so good at masquerading as our friends, our married partners, our comrades. Don't you think if it was obvious someone would have said something by now?
imfine222too: (Kampf um Gerechtigkeit!)

[personal profile] imfine222too 2014-12-05 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think we would know if Detective Fulbright was an impostor!
lasuaspada: (ARROGANCE ♞ mhmm sure she did)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Based on what, exactly?
fourleafcleaver: (will make 'em pay for the things)

[personal profile] fourleafcleaver 2014-12-05 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
If it was that easy, we wouldn't have to have a trial. Isn't the whole thing with demons that we can't tell 'em apart from the rest of us?
skyentificmethod: (ordinary world)

[personal profile] skyentificmethod 2014-12-05 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Is there any evidence that demons can't be determined from the rest of us? Maybe we should put him on the stand, see if we learn anything.
lasuaspada: (DISMISS ♞ oh - that was your girl?)

[personal profile] lasuaspada 2014-12-05 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
...The fact that we're having a trial at all is a pretty good indication, Skye-san.
skyentificmethod: (maneater)

[personal profile] skyentificmethod 2014-12-05 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Does something this disorganized even count as a trial? Looks more like a bunch of frightened people standing around yelling at each other to me.

Trial law comes down to evidence. You can throw around all the accusations you want. If there's no evidence that Kimblee's a demon, and there's no evidence that Fulbright's one of the faithful, we can't say either of those allegations are true.

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fourleafcleaver: (will make 'em pay for the things)

[personal profile] fourleafcleaver 2014-12-05 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
If it was that easy, Our Lady probably would've taken care of them right off the bat.

...She did mention "sinful behavior" or something like that, though? But I don't think anyone's done anything too out of the ordinary.
skyentificmethod: (is there something I should know)

[personal profile] skyentificmethod 2014-12-05 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose we could have everyone list what sins they've indulged in over the past 24 hours, but I feel like that's going to get into TMI territory pretty quickly.

Our Lady works in mysterious ways, and sometimes the way to really teach a lesson is by letting people figure it out themselves. But if we can't find a way to figure this out without any more than blind accusations, I don't see how we're any better than those unwashed tainted hordes.