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Day 02 Trial

[It is once more time to convene at the temple to pass judgment upon those who would destroy everything we know and love. Godspeed, my friends.]

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~~EDIT: Right now barely anyone has voted, and people seem to be tapering off. Trial may be extended depending on how it looks closer to closing time!~~

EDIT2: Okay, I'm extending the vote two hours to 6:30pm EST! We're still missing a lot of votes, so please get those in even if it's just to abstain!))

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But it's possible that you're a Sinner. Dreaming about you makes no sense, don't you understand?

As for "personally knowing it by already knowing what side you're on"? That's exactly why I think there won't be any more notes after this one, Monsieur Fulbright.

The first note didn't give us a finding, it gave us a possibility. Kimblee-san said he set it out to test his gift; it didn't tell us anything for sure, other than "This is what I believe." It was only a finding after the fact, at which point anyone could replicate it once our dear Lynne-san died.

The second note...if we assume you wrote it, it also doesn't give us a finding, does it? And since you can be sure of no one's alliance but your own, it would be easy for you to claim your own innocence. But beyond that, what then? You can't very well keep making predictions because you would just be consistently giving us people you know to be innocent, and the Sinners present the possibility of casting suspicion on you.

You can only claim the supposed innocence of Ling and yourself. Hence there aren't going to be any more notes.

Ha....!

Easy now, amigo. The good detective may be an idiot, but calling him a demon would be too much credit. "Dreaming about him makes no sense"... didn't you hear him run his mouth off? The way he accused people? He's just as worth investigation.

There's an easy way to determine who wrote that note, isn't there?

If you're referring to handwriting, you're dismissing the possibility of a forgery, aren't you?

Not quite. Both of those notes are pieces of evidence we've yet to examine. Assuming it's a forgery before even looking.... That's a bit of a hasty decision on your part, isn't it, amigo?

Hence I said it was a possibility, not a certainty.

You're right about that. But it would take a skilled man to forge, and the detective is anything but that, as you can clearly see.

But we can't theorize one way or another until we check those notes.

Actually, I see nothing of note.

All of you seem to easily forget that if Fulbright-san is a demon, he's already a skilled actor by default. Using assumptions based on his current behavior is a terrible mistake that we really shouldn't keep making.

Ha...!

Consider that some courtroom humor, Mr. Tsukiyama. But evidence speaks louder than words.

You said that last time, monsieur, and our Seer is now dead.

Waiting for your "evidence" hasn't gotten us much, outside of six people asleep - and if we abstain again, there may be nine tomorrow, who knows?

Intuition is just as valid an argument as anything at this point, I think, and mine? Says not to trust the dove.

Ha...! Well now, it wasn't my decision to mass-abstain, was it? A lack of evidence doesn't exactly make me complicit in those deaths, does it now?

A man's gut is as good as anything, and I won't try to change your mind. But I wonder why you're so insistent on dismissing a note without even looking at it?

Because I feel the contents speak for itself. Kimblee-san has the most to lose from that note existing, whereas Fulbright-san stands only to gain from it for no obvious reason. Fulbright-san obviously wants us to kill Kimblee-san, and he's the only one strongly pushing for us to do so. When asked about the note, however, he can't defend himself - all he can say is "I don't know" and "it is what it is," and if anything he's provided us with a good reason to suspect him given that he's pointed out that he can really only know his own alliance.

That's assuming that Mr. Kimblee is telling the truth about the first note being his.

If it isn't, that changes things a little, don't you think?

Not at all!

Say Kimblee-san is lying about that first note. The fact is that Fulbright-san - if he's a demon - would know that Kimblee-san is not. Killing Kimblee-san would still benefit him and his wretched group of infidels, and cast doubt on the actual False Seer present among us given that the position had been claimed before.

It's been said before, but Kimblee-san not writing that note makes him a liar. It doesn't necessarily make him a demon.

Ha....! I'm saying, if both of those notes were made by the same person, who is not Kimblee, then that would change things.

If Detective Fullbright were a demon, why would he go after Mr. Kimblee so aggressively in plain sight? That wouldn't be a practical plan at all. As you can see, we're all suspecting him already.

Kimblee-san painting a target on his head as far as all groups involved are concerned likewise wasn't a practical plan at all, yet here he is. I don't know if you've noticed, amore, but practicality doesn't seem to be our strong suit.

I think that it's possible that Fulbright-san is anticipating the suspicion, though - that he thought that maybe if we don't kill Kimblee-san tonight, Kimblee-san will try to dream about him. If he's a demon, he's in a position to tell the Incubus to block his power tonight - but I think it's more likely that he's in the one position where it won't matter.

Ha....! Mr. Kimblee seems to be doing fine either way. In fact, the real Seer is the one that's died.

Fair enough. But you're assuming the Demon and the Incubus are working together. Do you know that for a fact, amigo?

Wouldn't it make sense to assume they're collaborating rather than all acting individually? They run the risk of hitting each other otherwise, and wouldn't that be a mess and a half.

You make a lot of assumptions, is all, amigo.

There's a difference between assumptions and what makes logical sense, amore.

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cafeolay - 2014-12-05 18:18 (UTC) - Expand

There's many ways for it to make sense if you bother to think about it. Since I was interrogating Mr. Kimblee in public, the false seer could have believed the demons were likely to target me last night to stop their opposition. Anyone who is a victim gets their role revealed to the public. The first note already showed that the false seer was willing to see any of us a victim if it meant confirming their role. If they investigated me and I fell victim, that would accomplish exactly what they were trying but failed to do with Mr. Yao.

And after the mess the first note caused, I'd guess the false seer is probably changing their plans and ending their notes to stop any more imitations from appearing. The note they're keeping with them is obviously insurance in case they happen to be eliminated while they're doing their work in hiding.

So your main basis for accusing me is that you can't imagine a false seer having a motive to investigate me. But as I've said, there's plenty of possibilities that you just aren't able to come up with.

My basis for accusing Mr. Kimblee is that he lacks understanding of the role he's claiming to have, and had to have it explained to him, contrary to the first note which clearly understood the role. He's evidently not the first-note's writer, and his lying along with the loss of the real seer after she revealed her role to him shows me that he's a demon.

And that makes Kimblee-san a liar, not a demon. Opportunistic, surely, but not evil.

Why do you keep insisting the demons killed Lynne-san, however? Isn't it possible that was a mistake - that the Maddened took her life? If anything, it makes more sense for the demons to attack those who were outed as a Soulbonded pair - as Kimblee-san said earlier, it's a numbers game for them. Kimblee-san has also pointed out that killing Lynne-san made no sense for him, and as one who tends to strategize like that myself, I agree with him.

You also admitted yourself that Kimblee-san could be lying about meeting with Lynne-san at all, which is likewise a valid assumption to make because she can't confirm or deny. If he's lying, it would allow him to continue giving us the impression that he's the False Seer - which is suspicious but not proof of demonic possession. There are many reasons why he would consider doing such a thing.

Mr. Kimblee being a liar makes him a demon because he was directly harming the seers with his lie. He asked for the templar's protection; if he was helping the seers, he wouldn't have misdirected their protection away from them.

And no, going after soulmates doesn't make more sense, because soulmates together only have one vote-- they're no more threatening than an individual. And a pair of soulmates is significantly less threatening than an outed seer.

......Funny how you were so eager to agree with the evidence against Mr. Kimblee yesterday, but when it comes down to the trial, you use any vague interpretation you can to defend him, even when you acknowledge that he's a liar. Don't you think you're being inconsistent?

Does that make me a "demon" too, Fulbright-san?

Does it?

As far as I'm concerned, Mr. Kimblee is the one on trial today. I'd rather focus my vote on him for now. Maybe when the time comes, you'll come up with a better defense when you're making it for yourself.

You won't be given the opportunity to even try to catch me, dove.

You've proven nothing but the fact that alternate possibilities exist, but we have no more evidence defending you than we do defending Kimblee-san. The fact remains that you are the only person who stands to benefit from that note, you want Kimblee-san dead, and the possibility exists that you're trying to kill our one remaining Seer.

Horses before zebras, monsieur. It's strategically prudent for the demons to have written that note, and there's only one reason they would offer you up to be dreamed about in the event that it didn't work.

Edited 2014-12-05 06:46 (UTC)

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